Ravi Zacharias: Joyce Meyer is a “Great Bible Teacher”?

RaviJoyceRavi Zacharias was recently on Word Faith “pastor”, Joyce Meyer’s, television program. No biggie, right? After all, Ravi spoke in a Mormon temple. And when he was pinned on this, he said that he’d take any opportunity to speak the truth in any setting. Okay. I’m cool with that. After all, if you preach on the sidewalk, is that more sanctified or something? No. But it was some of the things that Ravi said that we absolutely crazy. Some quotes by Ravi directed to Joyce:

- “I think that’s why God has used you. You can understand the listener.”

- “God is doing some great things through people like you on television…”

- “You’re such a great Bible teacher in these things, I’m sure you’ve dealt with them before…”

Yikes.

Anyhow, one of the sources that reported on Zacharias’ appearance was a site called Apprising Ministries. Here’s where insult is added to injury. One of the regular readers of Apprising decided to email Ravi’s Ministry to figure out why Ravi would appear on her show. This is the email exchange between them (the concerned reader’s name was changed for privacy reasons):

1. The READER’S concern:

Hello,

I am writing because today I had watched a video of Ravi on the Apprising Ministries website at RAVI ZACHARIAS: WORD FAITH PREACHER JOYCE MEYER “SUCH A GREAT BIBLE TEACHER” GOD IS USING.

I couldn’t believe what I was seeing so I then checked the Joyce Meyer website and the show from today he calls Joyce Meyer a “great Bible teacher”.

I was rendered kind of speechless. I have great respect for Ravi, listening to him often. It was with shock to find out he was on her show. But then to call her a great Bible teacher.

Is Ravi now endorsing Joyce Meyer? By saying what he said about her and being on her show is, in itself, an endorsement. This is a serious thing. What is he doing?

Respectfully in Christ,

“Adrian”

2. RZIM’s response:

——– Original Message ——–

Subject: Response to Meyers comments
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 11:39:05 -0500
From: Rick Manafo
To: “Adrian”

Hi “Adrian,”

While we do not usually entertain many of the comments we receive on blog postings. We feel that a person is entitled to his or her opinion as there is great diversity in the kingdom.

My point: There is great diversity In the kingdom.

Joyce Meyers has devoted her life to the preaching of the word. She may be more eccentric than some and more charismatic than some feel comfortable with, but she has served the
kingdom well in her capacity with her gifting.

In that snippet, Ravi was referring to a verse of scripture to which he realized she must have taught on many times. Great doesn’t mean “best” or always “right”. But she has been faithful.

I could call people who write blogs like the one you mentioned  “great critics of evangelical Christian leaders.” What does the word “great” mean in that context? Does that mean I necessarily agree with them?

Does that mean that one is right in their assessment of every situation? It probably means that one has devoted themselves to it more than others and that only someone with that devotion could
turn a 2.5 second turn of a phrase into a such a “great” issue.

Joyce had Ravi on to discuss the issue of Truth … Ravi’s kind of good at that. If you watch the interviews in their entirety you will see the Ravi’s heart and the reason he  was invited: To discuss truth.

We should have more problems with the make-up job they did on Ravi than with Ravi’s comments.

Ravi has also been criticized for preaching at Temple Square … But realize that he only took the invitation if he could speak on the topic of his choosing which was all about “The Uniqueness of Christ”.

When I speak to people who have friends and loved ones who are Mormon, they can’t wait to get the CD’s to share them with their Mormon friends. The only people I know who have trouble with it are professional Christian critics.

If you enjoy Ravi, keep enjoying. Trust that he is serving God faithfully. Trust that he gets the opportunities he does with political leaders all over the world because of his gentleness. He never shies away from the Truth of the gospel. He just has a unique gift in communicating it to others in a way that validates not what they believe, but who they are as people that God loves.

So peace to you as we celebrate the coming of the One who ate with sinners and tax-collectors and turned the tables on religious expectations.

Sincerely,

Rick Manafo

Rick Manafo | Programming/Events
RZIM Canada | 50 Gervais Dr. Toronto, Ontario M3C 1Z3
p: 416 385 9199  c: 416 729 9045  | www.rzim.ca

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Did you catch that?! Read that opening again:

We feel that a person is entitled to his or her opinion as there is great diversity in the kingdom.

My point: There is great diversity In the kingdom.

Joyce Meyers has devoted her life to the preaching of the word. She may be more eccentric than some and more charismatic than some feel comfortable with, but she has served the
kingdom well in her capacity with her gifting.

So, apparently, Ravi’s ministry believes that Word Faith “pastor”, Joyce Meyer has served the kingdom well. Meyer, who narcissistically eisegetes the Scriptures. Meyer, who I watched on television, telling her congregation that they need to be more spontaneous if they want God’s blessing. She illustrated what she meant, saying that if you always order the same dish at a restaurant, just order something different for a change. Meyer who teaches that we are “little gods.” Meyer who teaches that our words create our reality. Oh, and in case you haven’t noticed – Meyer, the woman who is preachingPretty crazy. I don’t know why people think this guy is so brilliant. Yes, he sounds smarter than me, but his handling of the Scripture is deplorable. And now he is affirming a wolf in the church. This is a throwback to Piper embracing Rick Warren, and James McDonald and Mark Driscoll embracing TD Jakes. Anyhow, check out Ravi’s anthropocentric gospel to learn what he thinks is God’s greatest gift to humanity.

You can read the original article that sparked the man to email Ravi’s ministry [here]. On that article, you can even watch clips of Ravi praising Joyce Meyer. Finally, you can also check out the source article for the RZIM email exchange [here].

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6 thoughts on “Ravi Zacharias: Joyce Meyer is a “Great Bible Teacher”?

  1. The writer of this article reminds me of a Pharisee… I think both Ravi and Joyce are doing amazing work. I suspect that you would look down on Jesus in His time om earth: “The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’ “

    • The Pharisees’ problem was that they thought they were righteous by their own law keeping. How exactly am I doing that? They taught that if you do A, then God will do B. It was like that Galatian heresy of works for blessings. Instead, I’m pointing to problems in the church like Christ pointed to the Pharisees. And I point to Joyce as one of the biggest false teachers of our day. I’ve listened to plenty of her “sermons” and the way that she teaches that we need to alter our lives to be more blessed, just like the Galatians.

      • Niel – I know you mean well, and that your heart is in the right place, but Light should be exposing darkness. Just as the Secret Service in the process of enforcing counterfeit currency laws does not study all the possible fakes,, but will only study the real thing (this way they can spot a phony instantly), We should be doing exactly that: Studying the Real Thing so that we’ll be able to discern a fake.

        Yes, Meyer and Zacharias are doing a great work… but for their OWN kingdom, and not the Kingdom of Christ. You cannot go around preaching, or supporting the preaching of someone who claims that we are “Little Gods”, you just can’t.

        There are so many examples in scripture of even Jesus himself giving allegiance to God rather than to himself, the savior of mankind.. So how on Earth can you not see the heresy of someone as arrogant and mindlessly aggressive in her willful ignorance as Joyce Meyer (and all those who support her) when she claims what Jesus himself would not even claim?

  2. When we begin, to be so overly critical about men and women in the faith who have dedicated, may I even say more soo.. “surrendered” their very life and being to Jesus Christ and preaching his gospel. I think its time to find the passage in the bible of who we really are.. Sinners saved by the blood of Jesus and by him sanctifies us. If we are not careful, the one’s who believe in Jesus Christ as our Savior, the ones who trust in Jesus for saving our lives and daily cleansing us. We become enemies of the Gospel when we speak words of hate, condemnation, or even judge with such a critical eye when the very message we speak is believe the Lord Jesus. When we look at others too critically, we begin to distort the theological understanding of “Love your neighbor as you would yourself” .

    We have an enemy who brings railing accusations concerning the brother day and night. If you love God and believe in the Lord Jesus, I would side on the side of the Lord Jesus. For even the adulterous women they tried to condemn by the written word of the law. When Jesus said, “Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.” The Pharisees and religious people of that day recognized they were sinners and had not the right to cast a stone at her, even with amount of things she had committed. But the Lord replied, “I do not condemn thee”.

    Brothers, we are to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ! Stop hindering the Word of God and in efforts to muzzle the OX.

    I do not speak to the non-believer today. I speak to those who believe in Jesus as Lord. May you hear what I say and preach the Gospel. This is a family matter, our calling for the word of God is not to be the greatest critic of the Gospel, we are to preach the Gospel, we are to preach the Word of God, we are to feed the sheep.

    Romans 14:13 – “Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother’s way.”

    Roman 14:17 – “For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.”

    Roman 14:20 – “For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.”

    and most importantly, speaking to the brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ.

    Roman 14:4 – “Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.”

    Jesus is able to make us stand! Remember this always, preach the word, pray for the change of hearts for our nation, for our friends who do not know Jesus, for the enemies. May we mostly be first to judge our own selves and be accountable to the Lord Jesus Christ for our lives.

    Brothers and Sisters in Christ, I esteem you to love one another and bring the Gospel out to sick, the ones in need, the hungry, the dead. That they may also find life in Jesus!

    May God Bless you beloved.

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